Post pictures of your beeb setup
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@Zarchos Tsk, tsk there's very clearly a space on top of the bookshelf in the right of the picture. Wasted space!
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I recently started to the broken token podcasts and in one of the early podcasts, they had a discussion of what was retro.
My conclusion was anything that reminds you of "the good old days", not the TV programme
If something gives you a good feeling to have around, it can't be all bad, but you should probably try to decide if it gives you a good feeling, or if you just bought it hoping that it would.
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My conclusion was anything that reminds you of "the good old days", not the TV programme
If something gives you a good feeling to have around, it can't be all bad, but you should probably try to decide if it gives you a good feeling, or if you just bought it hoping that it would.
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Though with equipment, I think there's a divider between 'retro' and 'old'. A lot of it is subjective.
But I'd call it retro if something has a specific charm or magic, yet plain obsolete if something is just a pale forerunner of a new improved item. Take keyboards. There are plenty of old General MIDI keyboards with weak piano sounds and such, yet retro keyboards are collectables because they have a generation of timeless sound all their own. Like a woodgrain-finish Korg or Roland.
But I'd call it retro if something has a specific charm or magic, yet plain obsolete if something is just a pale forerunner of a new improved item. Take keyboards. There are plenty of old General MIDI keyboards with weak piano sounds and such, yet retro keyboards are collectables because they have a generation of timeless sound all their own. Like a woodgrain-finish Korg or Roland.
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Ok, update on how I'm set up now.....
Ed......
This Beeb has an internal DC which is my main mode of operation,
a working diskette drive,
WE ROM/RAM with tons of stuff on it,
the joysticks you can see.
Ed......
This Beeb has an internal DC which is my main mode of operation,
a working diskette drive,
WE ROM/RAM with tons of stuff on it,
the joysticks you can see.
Ed......
3 working Beebs, 1 RetroClinic Master, 1 normal Master, 1 A3010, 1 Pi2 RISC OS, 2 broken Beeb Motherboards, 1 Omnibus A7000+ server, 1 A7000+ Desktop, 1 PET, 1 C64, 1 C128, 1 Amiga 500 and 1 Roamer.
3 working Beebs, 1 RetroClinic Master, 1 normal Master, 1 A3010, 1 Pi2 RISC OS, 2 broken Beeb Motherboards, 1 Omnibus A7000+ server, 1 A7000+ Desktop, 1 PET, 1 C64, 1 C128, 1 Amiga 500 and 1 Roamer.
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Not a setup as such, but my wife is a photographer, and I've been playing with a still life setup of hers, to take some shots of some of my hardware...
Electron: BBC:
Electron: BBC:
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Most interesting: Arcflash, POST Box, Ultimate Electron Upgrade
Most interesting: Arcflash, POST Box, Ultimate Electron Upgrade
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I have now an extended desktop for my Atom. Both physically and logically
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My Electron (I also have a Plus 3 unit that's not in the photo obviously).
PS.: the TV set was a gift I received from the UK!
PS.: the TV set was a gift I received from the UK!
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New shelf up, I just hope it stays attached to the wall!
Free'd up space for some of my other stuff now
Martin
Free'd up space for some of my other stuff now
Martin
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Is that radio still working?
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Unfortunately not, this one with transistors in it from 1958 is though ...
This capacitor let out a lot of wax when I managed to turn it on (it's full of valves).
Once I've swapped out the capacitors in it, I'm hoping it eventually will though (it dates from about 1954).
Martin
This capacitor let out a lot of wax when I managed to turn it on (it's full of valves).
Once I've swapped out the capacitors in it, I'm hoping it eventually will though (it dates from about 1954).
Martin
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Much to tidy and organised I have a tiny corner in my house. All my wife allows me. Have to remember to take a pic you.
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My oh my, where did they make tubes small enough to fit in that capacitor?martinw wrote:This capacitor let out a lot of wax when I managed to turn it on (it's full of valves).
Mark
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Elminster wrote:Much to tidy and organised I have a tiny corner in my house. All my wife allows me. Have to remember to take a pic you.
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You may think you are joking, but they certainly did make 'tubes' (valves) small enough to fit in that capacitor. I had a wire-ended hearing-aid valve (tetrode, probably) that I encapsulated with a few other components to make an audio oscillator, and used to challenge people to guess what the active device was! Sadly I can't now find it otherwise I would have attached a photo, but it was similar to this.1024MAK wrote:My oh my, where did they make tubes small enough to fit in that capacitor?
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@martinw
Someone else who collects valves.
Someone else who collects valves.
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That's pretty interesting Richard, I know that quite a few of the early transistors too went into hearing aids.Richard Russell wrote:You may think you are joking, but they certainly did make 'tubes' (valves) small enough to fit in that capacitor. I had a wire-ended hearing-aid valve (tetrode, probably) that I encapsulated with a few other components to make an audio oscillator, and used to challenge people to guess what the active device was! Sadly I can't now find it otherwise I would have attached a photo, but it was similar to this.1024MAK wrote:My oh my, where did they make tubes small enough to fit in that capacitor?
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flaxcottage wrote:@martinw
Someone else who collects valves.
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Very very nice, congratulations!martinw wrote:New shelf up, I just hope it stays attached to the wall!
Martin
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Cheers Garrettimus, how's your setup looking these days, you must have filled the room you were in the last time I saw it twice over by now!Garrettimus wrote:Very very nice, congratulations!martinw wrote:New shelf up, I just hope it stays attached to the wall!
Martin
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These are the valves in the Ultra Troubadour radio BTW.1024MAK wrote:My oh my, where did they make tubes small enough to fit in that capacitor?martinw wrote:This capacitor let out a lot of wax when I managed to turn it on (it's full of valves).
Mark
And the real early transistors in the Roberts RT1.
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Yes I did know that they used to make small valves. But until I saw that picture, I don't think I had seen one apart from one time in a picture. And it is a little bit smaller than I remember...
By the time I was born, let alone when I became interested in electronics, the age of the valve/tube had (apart from CRT TVs) mainly passed by.
I don't think I would leave Pro-cell cells in a modern item, let alone in a vintage radio. Duracells have a nasty habit of leaking. Emergency torches, remote controls, test gear, you name it, they've leaked in it . And the Duracells PP3 batteries, although they don't leak too much, the cell link wires come adrift, making the battery useless long before it has supplied anywhere near it's capacity. Just look at the bottom. If there is any sign of any distortion, it's about to die...
Sorry about the off-topic rant
Mark
By the time I was born, let alone when I became interested in electronics, the age of the valve/tube had (apart from CRT TVs) mainly passed by.
I don't think I would leave Pro-cell cells in a modern item, let alone in a vintage radio. Duracells have a nasty habit of leaking. Emergency torches, remote controls, test gear, you name it, they've leaked in it . And the Duracells PP3 batteries, although they don't leak too much, the cell link wires come adrift, making the battery useless long before it has supplied anywhere near it's capacity. Just look at the bottom. If there is any sign of any distortion, it's about to die...
Sorry about the off-topic rant
Mark
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Hi Mark, thank you for the heads up, I'll swap them out immediately; any recommendations on decent batteries?1024MAK wrote:Yes I did know that they used to make small valves. But until I saw that picture, I don't think I had seen one apart from one time in a picture. And it is a little bit smaller than I remember...
By the time I was born, let alone when I became interested in electronics, the age of the valve/tube had (apart from CRT TVs) mainly passed by.
I don't think I would leave Pro-cell cells in a modern item, let alone in a vintage radio. Duracells have a nasty habit of leaking. Emergency torches, remote controls, test gear, you name it, they've leaked in it . And the Duracells PP3 batteries, although they don't leak too much, the cell link wires come adrift, making the battery useless long before it has supplied anywhere near it's capacity. Just look at the bottom. If there is any sign of any distortion, it's about to die...
Sorry about the off-topic rant
Mark
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That valve radio brings back memories. I repaired and recycled loads of those back in the day.
What is the valve line up, UCH42, UF42, UBC41, UL41 and UY41? If any break I may have spares.
What is the valve line up, UCH42, UF42, UBC41, UL41 and UY41? If any break I may have spares.
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That's good to know John, yes you are correctflaxcottage wrote:That valve radio brings back memories. I repaired and recycled loads of those back in the day.
What is the valve line up, UCH42, UF42, UBC41, UL41 and UY41? If any break I may have spares.
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/ultra_trou ... u_796.html
Martin
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Out of interest how do you get the valves out, I didn't want to prise them and break them?
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In terms of big brand names from the high street (and of course elsewhere), Energizer seem better.
I have used GP AA and AAA sizes without problems. I buy the large packs from Rapid (link).
So far, both these brands appear (at least to me) to have less problems with leakage.
I have a feeling that Duracell go for the maximum capacity at the expense of the amount of material that will be left when the cell becomes expired. The metal that makes up the case is also the very same material that is "consumed" by the chemical reaction.
For PP3's in smoke alarms, I'm currently trying lithium based batteries. But one I received had leaked before it got to me. So always test new cells and batteries (yes, I got a replacement). At work, I am currently trying the nx brand. But it's too early for any meaningful results. And they are not as easy to buy. Don't get me wrong, if abused, many Alkaline cells will leak. But IMHO Duracell are worse than you would expect for such a big brand.
Mark
I have used GP AA and AAA sizes without problems. I buy the large packs from Rapid (link).
So far, both these brands appear (at least to me) to have less problems with leakage.
I have a feeling that Duracell go for the maximum capacity at the expense of the amount of material that will be left when the cell becomes expired. The metal that makes up the case is also the very same material that is "consumed" by the chemical reaction.
For PP3's in smoke alarms, I'm currently trying lithium based batteries. But one I received had leaked before it got to me. So always test new cells and batteries (yes, I got a replacement). At work, I am currently trying the nx brand. But it's too early for any meaningful results. And they are not as easy to buy. Don't get me wrong, if abused, many Alkaline cells will leak. But IMHO Duracell are worse than you would expect for such a big brand.
Mark
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Like Mark I rate energiser better than Duracell. I think the last which? Survey did as well. Recharable duracell are even worse. Don't hold charge at all.