aerworuld wrote:joined up, thread started over at Retro Software if you fancy following whats happening
Stuart
at Retro Software
i should do that David! I wasn't sure if it was the sort of thing to mention theredavidb wrote:I suggest collecting links to reviews and things on the Retro Software page for your game. It's nice to go back later and see where it was mentioned.
Oh, and the audio file for the podcast can be downloaded from the podcast hosting site for those of you who don't have Javascript and Flash enabled in your browsers.
Hi, Stuart. Just thought I'd do a quick reply here in case I've got the wrong end of the stick on this, which is more than likely!aerworuld wrote:i'm asking awkward convert-back-to-cassette Quill related questions if anyone fancies a challenge over on the TCCOTMV Retro Software discussion thread....
It currently uses #0400 to #0800 (1K) and #2900 to #6000 (14K) so it's not quite going to fit in a 12K Atom.Arcadian wrote: Does it require the 32k RAM expansion, or will it run on a 12k+12k Atom?
hoglet wrote:Hi Stuart,
Just wanted to let you know I think this adventure is great!
I was a bit bored yesterday evening, so I did a quick port of it to the Atom: As far as I can see it works, including loading and saving, but the text is formatted for a 40 column screen, so the line breaks are a bit awkward.
I think the line length is fixed in the source text, with things like forced spaces. Is this correct?
I've tried extracting the database from the binary version, but it seems a bit messed up. It might be because I'm using a different version of Quill, or because you can't just extract the database.
What version are you using? I'm using Version A00.
Are you thinking of making the sources to this available?
Dave
Arcadian wrote:Cool!
Better get an inlay prepared for the Atom version too!
Does it require the 32k RAM expansion, or will it run on a 12k+12k Atom?
I think the "Version" label there is a bit misleading because the Beeb tape version and the newly-rediscovered-by-hoglet Beeb disc version of the Quill both display "Version A00" when they first boot up, even though they seem to be incompatible with each other: I tried loading a tape Quill db into disc Quill and then tried to test the game in-Quill, but it just printed a load of garbage on screen. Haven't tested any further yet.hoglet wrote:Hi Stuart,
What version are you using? I'm using Version A00.
lurkio wrote:I think the "Version" label there is a bit misleading because the Beeb tape version and the newly-rediscovered-by-hoglet Beeb disc version of the Quill both display "Version A00" when they first boot up, even though they seem to be incompatible with each other: I tried loading a tape Quill db into disc Quill and then tried to test the game in-Quill, but it just printed a load of garbage on screen. Haven't tested any further yet.hoglet wrote:Hi Stuart,
What version are you using? I'm using Version A00.
So, did you create and test that game db in a patched Electron tape version of the Quill which reports its version number as A01?aerworuld wrote:ok, here is a zipped .ssd image of the disc that contains my Database file for TCCOTMV.
Im sorry i didn't time to take the other files off the disc image; ignore them - the Quill game database file is called PINE_DB and works with the cassette version of the Quill that has been patched for disc use instead. This way the player loads the finalised game from disc and is also able to make in-game loads/saves to disc.
Hope this is of interest/helps!
lurkio wrote:So, did you create and test that game db in a patched Electron tape version of the Quill which reports its version number as A01?aerworuld wrote:ok, here is a zipped .ssd image of the disc that contains my Database file for TCCOTMV.
Im sorry i didn't time to take the other files off the disc image; ignore them - the Quill game database file is called PINE_DB and works with the cassette version of the Quill that has been patched for disc use instead. This way the player loads the finalised game from disc and is also able to make in-game loads/saves to disc.
Hope this is of interest/helps!
If so, that's kind of interesting because the patched A00 Beeb tape version seems to load in your db file without error. However, hoglet's Beeb disc version can't quite understand the db file: it almost gets it right, but e.g. the Location Descriptions are slightly jumbled up -- plus, when you try to playtest the game in-Quill, it prints a garbled first-room description, then gibberish, and then hangs!
Anyway, I saved PINE-DB off your ssd disc image and saved it to tape. See attached. It loads into the unpatched Beeb tape version of Quill.
Not sure how much any of this helps, but at least it's on record!
this way at least that chance of error should be eliminated.
Think you need something like freeuef, but hopefully the people in the know will be along shortly.aerworuld wrote:Once ive completed, is it easy enough to transfer from uef to an actual cassette?
don't forget iamaran's excellent entry over at CASA Solution Archive Arcadian wrote:Hi Stuart, don't worry about transferring the UEF to cassette: the Retro Software Production Department (aka Col!) will take care of generating an optimal 'master' copy. (And then I'll duplicate all the tapes!).
Great work, Stuart! And glad I could help.aerworuld wrote:okie dokie, with thanks to most excellent help from Lurkio for his db uef, here is a finalised tape version of TCCOTMV.
lurkio wrote:Great work, Stuart! And glad I could help.aerworuld wrote:okie dokie, with thanks to most excellent help from Lurkio for his db uef, here is a finalised tape version of TCCOTMV.
started that new thread for it to keep everything in one place.
