More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Hi all,
Here is part 3 of "The SIGMA experiment".
see here: viewtopic.php?f=32&t=19945&hilit=the+sigma+experiment
I got a good response when asking for help on part 2.
see here: viewtopic.php?f=74&t=20402&p=287823&hil ... rs#p286685
Here is "The BRAVO dimension". I will update the image above as I (we) go along.
**THE PROGRAM CAN NOW BE RUN ON A PLAIN MODEL B AT PAGE=&1300**
By all means play the game for fun, but what I really need is for the game to be heavily stress-tested.
Try anything.
Try and break it.
report back and I will do my best to fix any and all bugs/features.
If you want clues, or full walkthroughs, just ask.
It is best played using BeebEm in MASTER mode with a 6502 co-pro ticked. This puts PAGE at &0800.
At PAGE=&0800, the unpacked version can be played.
The file is just called "B".
the packed version "BPACK" should be able to be played on real hardware without a co-pro but the code is impossible to read.
Thank you all in advance!
A new adventure is about to begin...
Lee.
Here is part 3 of "The SIGMA experiment".
see here: viewtopic.php?f=32&t=19945&hilit=the+sigma+experiment
I got a good response when asking for help on part 2.
see here: viewtopic.php?f=74&t=20402&p=287823&hil ... rs#p286685
Here is "The BRAVO dimension". I will update the image above as I (we) go along.
**THE PROGRAM CAN NOW BE RUN ON A PLAIN MODEL B AT PAGE=&1300**
By all means play the game for fun, but what I really need is for the game to be heavily stress-tested.
Try anything.
Try and break it.
report back and I will do my best to fix any and all bugs/features.
If you want clues, or full walkthroughs, just ask.
It is best played using BeebEm in MASTER mode with a 6502 co-pro ticked. This puts PAGE at &0800.
At PAGE=&0800, the unpacked version can be played.
The file is just called "B".
the packed version "BPACK" should be able to be played on real hardware without a co-pro but the code is impossible to read.
Thank you all in advance!
A new adventure is about to begin...
Lee.
Last edited by leenew on Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:06 pm, edited 17 times in total.
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Well done Lee and Swedelia. You've managed to write your trilogy of adventures in double-quick time. I'm still on my second, but I suppose there are two of you ! You must be having as much fun programming games as I am. Can I ask if you're improving your adventure system with each new game? That's part of the enjoyment for me, my latest improvement is to include containers and I'm also looking at more advanced text compression techniques, to be precise Huffman coding, though my algorithmic tree for 80-odd characters is driving me nuts. Have you incorporated text compression in your game?
btw, Sigma Experiment, Bravo Dimension, Alpha Scenario? It's all greek to me...
btw, Sigma Experiment, Bravo Dimension, Alpha Scenario? It's all greek to me...
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Wow, another Sigma adventure! Thanks Lee.
I've played into it a little and it has a great feel to it. Hopefully I can retain my sanity this time.
However, there seems to be an anomaly when:
<rot13> V hacyht gur iragvyngbe naq vg vfa'g ybat orsber gur pb-beqvangbe fgbcf oernguvat. Ur vf abj fubja nf qrnq. V gura rknzvar gur iragvyngbe naq vg vf qrfpevorq nf cyhttrq va gb uryc gur pb-beqvangbe oerngur. Ntnva V hacyht gur iragvyngbe naq trg gur fnzr zrffntr nf orsber gung vg vfa'g ybat orsber gur pb-beqvangbe fgbcf oernguvat. </rot13>
Rod
I've played into it a little and it has a great feel to it. Hopefully I can retain my sanity this time.
However, there seems to be an anomaly when:
<rot13> V hacyht gur iragvyngbe naq vg vfa'g ybat orsber gur pb-beqvangbe fgbcf oernguvat. Ur vf abj fubja nf qrnq. V gura rknzvar gur iragvyngbe naq vg vf qrfpevorq nf cyhttrq va gb uryc gur pb-beqvangbe oerngur. Ntnva V hacyht gur iragvyngbe naq trg gur fnzr zrffntr nf orsber gung vg vfa'g ybat orsber gur pb-beqvangbe fgbcf oernguvat. </rot13>
Rod
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Ha Ha Ha!! it's not just your sanity we have to worry about
I am actually working on this RIGHT NOW
That bit is a bit flaky to say the least.
Gimme 45 minutes!!!!!!
Lee
Swedelia
I am actually working on this RIGHT NOW
That bit is a bit flaky to say the least.
Gimme 45 minutes!!!!!!
Lee
Swedelia
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Have to say that I love the <rot13> Ebob-M naq gur zvav irefvba!!! </rot13>
This adventure sure has the Swedelia touch!
This adventure sure has the Swedelia touch!
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He He He thanks!
OK, so a long 45 minutes later (I blame the time dilation) and I have posted beta5.
That section is much better now
Lee.
OK, so a long 45 minutes later (I blame the time dilation) and I have posted beta5.
That section is much better now
Lee.
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OK got it. I'll have a look at it tomorrow.
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Hi Rod,
Whfg or pnershy...
Gurer vf n zbir gung pna chg gur tnzr va na ha jvaanoyr fgngr.
V chg vg va vagragvbanyyl, ohg abj V guvax vg'f hasnve.
Jura Ebob-M vf "gval" uvf ynfre vfa'g nf cbjreshy nf jura ur vf abezny fvmrq, fb vg znl abg qb nf zhpu qnzntr...
Vs lbh jnag n shegure pyhr, yrg zr xabj.
I probably will alter this in the next beta.
Lee.
Whfg or pnershy...
Gurer vf n zbir gung pna chg gur tnzr va na ha jvaanoyr fgngr.
V chg vg va vagragvbanyyl, ohg abj V guvax vg'f hasnve.
Jura Ebob-M vf "gval" uvf ynfre vfa'g nf cbjreshy nf jura ur vf abezny fvmrq, fb vg znl abg qb nf zhpu qnzntr...
Vs lbh jnag n shegure pyhr, yrg zr xabj.
I probably will alter this in the next beta.
Lee.
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Hi Lee
Un un vagrerfgvat sbe lbh gb fnl gung. V'ir nyernql tbar jvyq jvgu Ebob-M oynfgvat guvatf bhg bs rkvfgrapr naq rnpu gvzr guvaxvat vg cebonoyl znqr vg vzcbffvoyr gb pbzcyrgr sebz gung cbfvgvba. Creuncf gur bar lbh'er nyyhqvat gb vf xvyyvat gur pb-beqvangbe. Ab arrq gb ercyl nobhg gung. V unir n ybg bs rkcrevzragvat gb qb...
Thanks
Rod
Un un vagrerfgvat sbe lbh gb fnl gung. V'ir nyernql tbar jvyq jvgu Ebob-M oynfgvat guvatf bhg bs rkvfgrapr naq rnpu gvzr guvaxvat vg cebonoyl znqr vg vzcbffvoyr gb pbzcyrgr sebz gung cbfvgvba. Creuncf gur bar lbh'er nyyhqvat gb vf xvyyvat gur pb-beqvangbe. Ab arrq gb ercyl nobhg gung. V unir n ybg bs rkcrevzragvat gb qb...
Thanks
Rod
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Hi Lee
I'm using the update B5 and have a few comments:
Zvabe vapbafvfgrapl: V trg Ebob-M gb boyvgrengr gur gbvyrg. Rknzvar gbvyrg. Jurer vf vg? Syhfu gbvyrg: Jubbfu
Vagrerfgvat guvat jvgu graare: Rknzvar wnpxrg va pbasrerapr ebbz erirnyf pneq, pyvc naq graare. Nygreangviryl, vs V gnxr gur wnpxrg naq rknzvar vg bayl nsgre rkvgvat gur ebbz V pna frr naq trg gur pneq naq pyvc ohg gur graare erznvaf va gur pbasrerapr ebbz. Guvf vf cebonoyl ubj lbh vagraq vg naq pna or rkcynvarq ybtvpnyyl nf vg zvtug snyy sebz gur wnpxrg haabgvprq.
Vapbafvfgrapl: Pureraxbi vf boyvgrengrq ol gval Ebob-M ohg ernccrnef (natel) vs V hacyht gur iragvyngbe. Creuncf ur fubhyq whfg or fghaarq, abg boyvgrengrq? V'z whfg rkcrevzragvat nebhaq guvf nern naq qba'g vzntvar gung gur fbyhgvba vf nf rnfl nf xvyyvat gur pbbeqvangbe urer naq abj nf gurer ner bgure chmmyrf lrg gb fbyir.
Rod
I'm using the update B5 and have a few comments:
Zvabe vapbafvfgrapl: V trg Ebob-M gb boyvgrengr gur gbvyrg. Rknzvar gbvyrg. Jurer vf vg? Syhfu gbvyrg: Jubbfu
Vagrerfgvat guvat jvgu graare: Rknzvar wnpxrg va pbasrerapr ebbz erirnyf pneq, pyvc naq graare. Nygreangviryl, vs V gnxr gur wnpxrg naq rknzvar vg bayl nsgre rkvgvat gur ebbz V pna frr naq trg gur pneq naq pyvc ohg gur graare erznvaf va gur pbasrerapr ebbz. Guvf vf cebonoyl ubj lbh vagraq vg naq pna or rkcynvarq ybtvpnyyl nf vg zvtug snyy sebz gur wnpxrg haabgvprq.
Vapbafvfgrapl: Pureraxbi vf boyvgrengrq ol gval Ebob-M ohg ernccrnef (natel) vs V hacyht gur iragvyngbe. Creuncf ur fubhyq whfg or fghaarq, abg boyvgrengrq? V'z whfg rkcrevzragvat nebhaq guvf nern naq qba'g vzntvar gung gur fbyhgvba vf nf rnfl nf xvyyvat gur pbbeqvangbe urer naq abj nf gurer ner bgure chmmyrf lrg gb fbyir.
Rod
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UPDATED TO BETA6
Uv Ebq,
Lbh tvir zr sne gbb zhpu perqvg!
Gurfr ner abg vagragvbany... Gurl ner ohtf!
V unir svkrq gur gbvyrg syhfu. V unir svkrq gur jnaqrevat £10.
V unir svkrq gur frpgvba jvgu gur bcrengvat gurnger naq Ebob M.
Lbh fubhyq abg unir orra noyr gb gnetrg Pureraxbi (be Jbyss be gur pb-beqvangbe, be Elqre, be Ebob-M uvzfrys).
Fb gur bowrpg *VF* gb xvyy gur pb-beqvangbe, ohg vg fubhyq or n yvggyr zber gevpxl abj lbh unir gb qb vg gur "evtug" jnl, naq abg whfg oynfg gurz nyy jvgu Ebob-M!
V jnagrq gb nqq n ovg zber ohg V unir eha bhg bs ebbz.
V unir nyfb erzbirq gur hasnve ovg. Vg fgbccrq lbh sebz trggvat onpx gb gur phovpyr fb V unir whfg qryrgrq vg.
The feedback I got was that ALPHA was a bit more tricky than SIGMA so I dialled this one back a bit.
I don't want these adventures to be a chore. I want to keep the fun factor.
Once BRAVO is finished I will probably have a little break before I write the final instalment!
Swedelia.
Uv Ebq,
Lbh tvir zr sne gbb zhpu perqvg!
Gurfr ner abg vagragvbany... Gurl ner ohtf!
V unir svkrq gur gbvyrg syhfu. V unir svkrq gur jnaqrevat £10.
V unir svkrq gur frpgvba jvgu gur bcrengvat gurnger naq Ebob M.
Lbh fubhyq abg unir orra noyr gb gnetrg Pureraxbi (be Jbyss be gur pb-beqvangbe, be Elqre, be Ebob-M uvzfrys).
Fb gur bowrpg *VF* gb xvyy gur pb-beqvangbe, ohg vg fubhyq or n yvggyr zber gevpxl abj lbh unir gb qb vg gur "evtug" jnl, naq abg whfg oynfg gurz nyy jvgu Ebob-M!
V jnagrq gb nqq n ovg zber ohg V unir eha bhg bs ebbz.
V unir nyfb erzbirq gur hasnve ovg. Vg fgbccrq lbh sebz trggvat onpx gb gur phovpyr fb V unir whfg qryrgrq vg.
The feedback I got was that ALPHA was a bit more tricky than SIGMA so I dialled this one back a bit.
I don't want these adventures to be a chore. I want to keep the fun factor.
Once BRAVO is finished I will probably have a little break before I write the final instalment!
Swedelia.
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Updated to Beta7 after introducing a stupid bug in B6.
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Oops, I just finished Beta6!
Lots of fun indeed. Congratulations on some really clever, funny scenarios.
Now that you mention a bug, I did find something but I've forgotten what it was...
Oh, now I remember:
V svyy gur flevatr naq vawrpg Pureraxbi (guebj flevatr yvxr n qneg) gura vairagbel fubjf gung V fgvyy unir gur flevatr (shyy).
Vg gbbx zr n juvyr gb svaq gur phovpyr ohg gur pyhrf ner gurer naq riraghnyyl V ernyvmrq jung gb qb. Vs V pna znxr n fhttrfgvba, fbzrbar jub qvqa'g xabj gb ybbx sbe gur phovpyr (juvpu unf abg orra zragvbarq ng nyy) zvtug zvff gur cebcre, fngvfslvat raqvat. Nsgre xvyyvat gur pbbeqvangbe creuncf gurer pbhyq or fbzr vaqvpngvba gung lbh arrq gb trg gb gur phovpyr.Znlor n gvzr yvzvg jvgu Jbyss ba gur punfr gb xvyy lbh? Whfg zl gubhtugf orpnhfr vg frrzrq n ovg syng nsgre xvyyvat gur qverpgbe. Creuncf nf ur qvrf ur pbhyq cerff na nynez?
Ol gur jnl, ubj qvq lbh xabj va Orgn-5 V unq gnetrgrq EBOB-M vgfrys? UnUn! Ubjrire jvgu lbhe punatrf va Orgn-6 V pbhyq fgvyy xvyy Jbyss.
Rod
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Glad you liked it.
I agree with you regarding the ending.
I will see if there's room to squeeze it in.
Oh and yes, the update from b6 to b7 was to stop you from Xvyyvat Jbyss!
Lee
I agree with you regarding the ending.
I will see if there's room to squeeze it in.
Oh and yes, the update from b6 to b7 was to stop you from Xvyyvat Jbyss!
Lee
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Hi to all my testers.
Acting on feedback, I have improved the ending.
UPDATED to BETA10. (see first post).
I have made it a little more difficult.
Any more feedback is welcome.
Don't forget, I will supply a full walkthrough if you just want to try and find bugs.
There is one more surprise *IF* I can fit it in......
Stay tuned.
Swedelia.
Acting on feedback, I have improved the ending.
UPDATED to BETA10. (see first post).
I have made it a little more difficult.
Any more feedback is welcome.
Don't forget, I will supply a full walkthrough if you just want to try and find bugs.
There is one more surprise *IF* I can fit it in......
Stay tuned.
Swedelia.
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Hi testers,
Updated first post to rc1.
I have re-worked the ending be be less of a let-down (cheers Rod )
It took quite a bit of time as I ran out of space and had to enlist lurkio to turn my baby-BASIC into a more compact (unreadable) version using his logic skillz
Seeing as I feel this is the first release candidate, any more testing would be greatly appreciated.
The game should be the same up until ...
lbh znantr gb trg vagb gur bcrengvat gurnger.
Nsgre gung, guvatf unir gnxra n qvssrerag ghea...
Cyrnfr gel naq rfpncr!
tbbq yhpx...
Swedelia
Updated first post to rc1.
I have re-worked the ending be be less of a let-down (cheers Rod )
It took quite a bit of time as I ran out of space and had to enlist lurkio to turn my baby-BASIC into a more compact (unreadable) version using his logic skillz
Seeing as I feel this is the first release candidate, any more testing would be greatly appreciated.
The game should be the same up until ...
lbh znantr gb trg vagb gur bcrengvat gurnger.
Nsgre gung, guvatf unir gnxra n qvssrerag ghea...
Cyrnfr gel naq rfpncr!
tbbq yhpx...
Swedelia
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Updated to RC2.
This fixes a small parser bug that nobody noticed.....
(I will apply this fix to SIGMA and ALPHA).
Lee.
This fixes a small parser bug that nobody noticed.....
(I will apply this fix to SIGMA and ALPHA).
Lee.
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
rc4 corrects some errant behaviour. - Updated in the first post.
It's looking good now I think.
Any late bug reports still welcome
Lee.
It's looking good now I think.
Any late bug reports still welcome
Lee.
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Sorry I couldn't find the time for this one, Lee. I have played it today though and enjoyed it.
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Glad everyone seems to have enjoyed it
I have made one further update based on a comment by iamaran, who noted that:
lbh qba'g arrq gur gbepu gur frpbaq gvzr lbh tb guebhtu gur qhpgvat.
Nf ybat nf lbh tb gur pbeesrpg jnl, lbh ner fnsr.
Nsgre guvaxvat nobhg vg, V unir znqr gur fznyy punatr fb lbh QB arrq gur gbepu.
So I will leave rc5 as the final version, unless someone finds an almighty bug that everyone else has missed!
Which only leaves me to write the FINAL PART
The SIGMA experiment part IV - "The CHARLIE Finale"
Lee.
I have made one further update based on a comment by iamaran, who noted that:
lbh qba'g arrq gur gbepu gur frpbaq gvzr lbh tb guebhtu gur qhpgvat.
Nf ybat nf lbh tb gur pbeesrpg jnl, lbh ner fnsr.
Nsgre guvaxvat nobhg vg, V unir znqr gur fznyy punatr fb lbh QB arrq gur gbepu.
So I will leave rc5 as the final version, unless someone finds an almighty bug that everyone else has missed!
Which only leaves me to write the FINAL PART
The SIGMA experiment part IV - "The CHARLIE Finale"
Lee.
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Hi Lee,
A little late to this one, downloaded and played RC5 this morning and it seems rock solid although I'm struggling to complete the last step (I assume) and a little stuck in limbo.
It has a nice feel to it and some great puzzles. As someone else remarked <rot13>Ebob-mryyvatre vf n jbaqreshy vairagvba naq n terng qrny bs sha</rot13>
<rot13>
V xvyyrq Pureraxbi naq gura xvyyrq gur pb-beqvangbe (avpr pyhr ba uvf zbhgu orvat bcra), Jbyss unf qvfnccrnerq naq V'z yrsg jvgu na hahfrq purrfr fnaqjvpu (juvpu V pna znxr gval unun). V pna npprff rireljurer V unir orra orsber vapyhqvat gur pbasrerapr ebbz naq fuevax-b-zrgre. Zvffvat fbzrguvat ba ubj gb pbzcyrgr (nffhzvat vg pbzcyrgrf va n fvzvyne znaare gb gur cerivbhf vafgnyyzragf). Znlor V oebxr fbzrguvat naq vg'f va na hajvaanoyr fgngr). Jvyy ybbx ntnva yngre. Qbrf gung fbhaq evtug?
</rot13>
A little late to this one, downloaded and played RC5 this morning and it seems rock solid although I'm struggling to complete the last step (I assume) and a little stuck in limbo.
It has a nice feel to it and some great puzzles. As someone else remarked <rot13>Ebob-mryyvatre vf n jbaqreshy vairagvba naq n terng qrny bs sha</rot13>
<rot13>
V xvyyrq Pureraxbi naq gura xvyyrq gur pb-beqvangbe (avpr pyhr ba uvf zbhgu orvat bcra), Jbyss unf qvfnccrnerq naq V'z yrsg jvgu na hahfrq purrfr fnaqjvpu (juvpu V pna znxr gval unun). V pna npprff rireljurer V unir orra orsber vapyhqvat gur pbasrerapr ebbz naq fuevax-b-zrgre. Zvffvat fbzrguvat ba ubj gb pbzcyrgr (nffhzvat vg pbzcyrgrf va n fvzvyne znaare gb gur cerivbhf vafgnyyzragf). Znlor V oebxr fbzrguvat naq vg'f va na hajvaanoyr fgngr). Jvyy ybbx ntnva yngre. Qbrf gung fbhaq evtug?
</rot13>
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Rot13<
↓
Unir lbh sbhaq gur phovpyr ebbz?
Vf Jbyss gurer?
>Rot13
Lee
↓
Unir lbh sbhaq gur phovpyr ebbz?
Vf Jbyss gurer?
>Rot13
Lee
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
No not yet - will look when I get back home. I don't remember seeing it or directions to it. Will report back.
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
I don't want to spoil things but I *think* you may be in an un-winnable state.
I think you have missed something that I need to trap...
Lbh arrq Ebob Mryyvtre gb svaq gur phovpyr ebbz...
Lee
I think you have missed something that I need to trap...
Lbh arrq Ebob Mryyvtre gb svaq gur phovpyr ebbz...
Lee
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updated to rc6
nqqrq n zrffntr sbe rngvat gur gval purrfr fnaqjvpu!
genccrq gur pnfr jurerol lbh unir xvyyrq gur pb-beqvangbe ohg abj unir ab jnl gb trg gb gur phovpyr ebbz nf EbobM vf ab ybatre ninvynoyr gb erirny gur ebbz.
nqqrq n zrffntr sbe rngvat gur gval purrfr fnaqjvpu!
genccrq gur pnfr jurerol lbh unir xvyyrq gur pb-beqvangbe ohg abj unir ab jnl gb trg gb gur phovpyr ebbz nf EbobM vf ab ybatre ninvynoyr gb erirny gur ebbz.
Re: More adventure game BETA Testers wanted!
Don't forget - if you do the same actions as you did before, you will now be killed rather than wandering forever..
So it is still up to you to find what you have missed!
#staring you in the face!
Lee.
So it is still up to you to find what you have missed!
#staring you in the face!
Lee.
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Something broke in the last update for RC6...
<rot13>
V xvyyrq Pureraxbi naq jrag gb xvyy gur pb-beqvangbe. V vafregrq ebob-m naq vg qvfnccrnerq sebz zl vairagbel. Cerffvat sver qbrf abguvat. Ebob-m fgnegrq ivoengvat jvyqyl naq unf orra sbe nobhg 20 gheaf ohg gung zrffntr sbyybjf zr jurerire V tb rira gubhtu vg'f abg va zl vairagbel.
</rot13>
I'm stuck again in an unwinnable state... and no one comes to kill me in this state. I have a save state if you can't reproduce.
<rot13>
V xvyyrq Pureraxbi naq jrag gb xvyy gur pb-beqvangbe. V vafregrq ebob-m naq vg qvfnccrnerq sebz zl vairagbel. Cerffvat sver qbrf abguvat. Ebob-m fgnegrq ivoengvat jvyqyl naq unf orra sbe nobhg 20 gheaf ohg gung zrffntr sbyybjf zr jurerire V tb rira gubhtu vg'f abg va zl vairagbel.
</rot13>
I'm stuck again in an unwinnable state... and no one comes to kill me in this state. I have a save state if you can't reproduce.
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Actually here it is