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IanJeffray wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:23 am Earliest non-Adelaide A3010 I think that I've seen here?...
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Not quite... Also non-Adelaide.
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baz4096 wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:49 am Not quite... Also non-Adelaide.

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Ah :) We all need to start posting searchable textualised versions of serial numbers :)
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IanJeffray wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:06 am Hmm. What's going on here then? This is an A3000. AEH01 doesn't appear in the list on Chris's Acorns and doesn't seem to "fit" in the scheme of codes either! (AEH are all Econet/Ethernet things).
Interesting, that's not the normal printing for a serial number ticket either. I wonder if it was a typo on the first batch of labels, mistranscribed from handwriting. K becomes E, B becomes H, not that far away, and AEH was an existing prefix whereas AKB would have been new.
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BeebMaster wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:43 pm
IanJeffray wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:06 am Hmm. What's going on here then? This is an A3000. AEH01 doesn't appear in the list on Chris's Acorns and doesn't seem to "fit" in the scheme of codes either! (AEH are all Econet/Ethernet things).
Interesting, that's not the normal printing for a serial number ticket either. I wonder if it was a typo on the first batch of labels, mistranscribed from handwriting. K becomes E, B becomes H, not that far away, and AEH was an existing prefix whereas AKB would have been new.
A bit of a stretch, but yes, I see that AKB01 is a 'normal' serial for an A3000, so there could be something to this idea. Good shout on the label style too -- all odd.
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Earliest noted (?) AGB11 A3010 on eBay just now - good starting price for anyone able to collect:
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Where do ANB100 serial numbers fit for BBC Bs? I have ANB100-100070.
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bbcrules wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 5:26 pm Where do ANB100 serial numbers fit for BBC Bs? I have ANB100-100070.
ANB100 serial numbers are fairly uncommon. I expect your machine is an Issue 7, most likely made sometime in 1984 (or possibly 1985).
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The Learning Curve Acorn A3010 2MB 01-ALC15-0000717 (Not mine)
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Curiously that one's already in my database. Wonder where I ran into it before?
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SarahWalker wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:42 pm Curiously that one's already in my database. Wonder where I ran into it before?
Probably this mad listing that keeps reappearing : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334120547866
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Wow, I have a boxed one of those, anyone want to give me £999.99 for it?
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BeebMaster wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:32 pm Wow, I have a boxed one of those, anyone want to give me £999.99 for it?
There's a reason I said "Keeps reappearing" :lol:
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From eBay :
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I have an A3010 Adelaide, fully working (original battery removed and some minor repairs due to battery leak damage) with the following serial number:

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Not mine, spotted on an auction site:

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I used to have the A1 prototype (for A305/A310) number 009. Gave it to a friend, who threw it away as it wouldn't run DOS software.
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SKS1 wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:14 am I used to have the A1 prototype (for A305/A310) number 009. Gave it to a friend, who threw it away as it wouldn't run DOS software.
Some friend. Ouch.
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atcurtis wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:36 am I have an A3010 Adelaide, fully working (original battery removed and some minor repairs due to battery leak damage) with the following serial number: 01-ALC15-0000185
Well that definitely blows our understanding of Adelaide serial numbers completely apart. Is that absolutely definitely the original base for the machine? Previously, all known Adelaides had serial numbers 01-AGB15-101xxxx. ALC15 is a "Learning Curve" system, rather than the AGB15 "Family Pack".
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I did suggest a possibility a while ago :
So possibly AGB15 does have a specific range of Adelaide serial numbers, but the Learning Curve packs were put together by grabbing whatever machines were convenient?
If true then _some_ Learning Curve machines would be Adelaides, but probably not any obvious serial number range.
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IanJeffray wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:18 pm
atcurtis wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:36 am I have an A3010 Adelaide, fully working (original battery removed and some minor repairs due to battery leak damage) with the following serial number: 01-ALC15-0000185
Well that definitely blows our understanding of Adelaide serial numbers completely apart. Is that absolutely definitely the original base for the machine? Previously, all known Adelaides had serial numbers 01-AGB15-101xxxx. ALC15 is a "Learning Curve" system, rather than the AGB15 "Family Pack".
I acquired it as a non-working machine quite a while ago. The nicad had leaked and I don't recall seeing any evidence of any prior servicing.
Perhaps Acorn did things a bit like Sinclair and stuffed any repaired motherboard into cases to be sold?
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atcurtis wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:31 pm
IanJeffray wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:18 pm
atcurtis wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:36 am I have an A3010 Adelaide, fully working (original battery removed and some minor repairs due to battery leak damage) with the following serial number: 01-ALC15-0000185
Well that definitely blows our understanding of Adelaide serial numbers completely apart. Is that absolutely definitely the original base for the machine? Previously, all known Adelaides had serial numbers 01-AGB15-101xxxx. ALC15 is a "Learning Curve" system, rather than the AGB15 "Family Pack".
I acquired it as a non-working machine quite a while ago.
Is there a chance it wasn't in its original case then?
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IanJeffray wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:48 pm
Is there a chance it wasn't in its original case then?
Possible but it must have been done a very long time before I got it. I remember hearing a good crack sound when I undone the case screws for my first time.
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IanJeffray wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:18 pm
atcurtis wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:36 am I have an A3010 Adelaide, fully working (original battery removed and some minor repairs due to battery leak damage) with the following serial number: 01-ALC15-0000185
Well that definitely blows our understanding of Adelaide serial numbers completely apart. Is that absolutely definitely the original base for the machine? Previously, all known Adelaides had serial numbers 01-AGB15-101xxxx. ALC15 is a "Learning Curve" system, rather than the AGB15 "Family Pack".
Well well. Another Adelaide that's "non-AGB15" has appeared here ... 01-ALC15-0002783
I've no way to confirm authenticity of this PCB being in this case, but I believe it's more likely to be correct than not. :shock:
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A3000, 01-AKB01-1002750

This came with a very early-looking mouse with totally flat buttons and a Made in Switzerland label. Never seen one like that before.
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